we seem to have lost an L over the centrys although some people seem to think we've lost the E as well! I have been given a tree with all these spellings also Olive. My tree starts in 1720 in the Medway villiage of Halling in Aylesford, Kent. I have lots of birth records and few Deaths although the main branch seems to have stayed in the Medway area for a while. There seems to be large family's of sons which I know all emigrated to different parts of the globe in the 1800's. Our Branch went to South Africa. He was the Hon Albert Thomas Oliff. If any one thinks this may be of interest we'd be pleased to hear from you.