Marge, Thank you for the data, it is a big help. It gives me more to work with. The Hockman Cem. where Victor is buried is in a little town in Ohio, McClure, Ohio. I will go back to that Cem. and go all through it to take a look for other Orwigs. Also there is another Cem. in McClure, Oh., I willcheck it out. I will try to go this week and let you know what I find. Thanks again.