Sarah, I want to thank you so very much, I have been trying to find john's father for a while. Ihave been talking to Milton Copeland in ms for a while a real sweet person, he had just e-mailed me about a week ago and said he felt like john's father was Benjamin Pannell and wondered if he may have died in the civil war. and he found jane on the 1800 cen, and went and found a Benjamin with jane on one together, and before he e-mailed me I had saw that jane on the 1800 cen. too an kinda wondered if she could be.john's mom, O.k on the Itwamba 1900 cen, you will find john,Bellzora (Armstrong) and there children William R.,Thomas which was called Tobe,ollie (my Grand-Mother)mollie,Bartha,Jesse, on the cencus it states Bellszora had eight children and only seven living, well just up above ,there is a patterson Pannell liveing with a family as a hired hand. Well Milton Copeland and I seem to think that he may be a nother son of johns and Bellzora's.I have a 1910 lee co cencus with my grand-father Hulon Qunn and Ollie on it right after they were marred same year, in the next house down there is Tobe and Fannie H.Pannell and there son charles which is two. and the next house down is John and Bellzora and mollie,Bartha,and Jesse. well that is the last I can find of them, for years I felt that was grand-mother ollie's brother, After find an obit for Fannie Pannell widow of Tobe pannell who died in 1936 and buried in kirkvill cem. Well Dear Sweet Milton Copeland gave me the names of Tob's children from a cencus then he looked in the phone book and gave me Tobe's son Huburts phone number, well bless his hart he could not remember any of the names I gave him, well Milton came to the rescue again, and saw Archies obit and sent me the names of his children and one of his daughter's that still lives in gun town, I called her and told her what I thought and she said she could remember her dad having a young brothr named jesse buried out there where he was buried so I sent her some of the cencus records and some pictures of me and my family and she sent me some of her an one of Tobe, and two of Tobe's son's that were killed in war over in germany. I was amazed at the family resemblence , she even said her boss thought she and I looked a like. but some where I can't recall I saw Tobe's name as Tobe B.Pannell, so that could be where the B. comes in, well my Grand-mother Ollie died in 1918 of the flue,she had jus had a little baby boy who they names Arthur,and my dad Audie was about four and his brother Johnny was six, and his brother Alger was two. my mom said she was always told that she was buried around bay arkansas,and my half cousin said he thought she was born in ms,well I sent for a death certificate in ms, an ark, but there was not one for her and all of my dad's family here are all dead includeing my mom, my husband lost his supervisor job of 37 years because of the plant closing and he had to find a nother job which his pay was cut in half. and I haven't had the extra money to send after other records .Milton told me of a lady in Ga.that has a book on the pannells but have to wait till I can afford to send after it. There is a pannell cem, on the tishmingo and ponotoc line ,and I am wondering if they may be buried out there. For I haven't been able to find them any where. and nothing on the rest of the children. To the best of my knowledge william was b,abt 1880. ,patterson abt 1883,Tobe in 1886.Mollie in 1891,bartha in 1894.and Jesse in 1898. which ollie was born in 1892, You know since my dad and all of his brothers are gone it is so imporant to me to find her and her family,I wrote to Waters funeral home and sent them a self addressed envelop and ask them if they had any information on Tobe pannell since he did in 1936,but never recieved an answer from them .If I can find out the parents of Tobe pannell that is shirly shooks grand-father and if it is john and bellszora then we will know for sure.I guess I am going to have to try and send after a death certificate for him, Sweet little Shirley works all the time and doesn't have the time to help me much,she said mabe after she retires she will have more time ,you will never know how much I appreciate you taking the time to give me this information, and may God bless you, and please stay in contact. do you live in ms, I love to here from people that live in ms, I got to go to A Quinn reunion a couple of years ago and meet my grand-fathers brothers children which they didn't even know he had any children,but I found them on the internet,and one of my decendants has a construction co in fulton I got to meet him too and he and his family are so nice.some of them live in Ripley I thought Ms was a beuatiful state, and hope to be able to visit one day again, David does have me a copy of Ollie and Hulons marriage liscenes.not spelled right it is late and I am tired, Oh, yes I found Tobes oldest son's wife in nebrasco ,she is 96 .but she couldn't remember any thing about tobes brothers ,sisters or his mom and dad, but is was great to talk to her anyway, So Thanks again, and If you want to e-mail me , please fell free to do it, at firstname.lastname@example.org.