Florence, received your message and will get more infomation for you. The reason I believe we are of German heritage(upper Germany)? is because we were told grandparents left Germany and settled in Pa.?? My dad 1905-1960 was fair skinned and a red-head, approximately 6ft. He did alot of mason work and was a good carpenter, but worked also in a factory for ins. for his large family. I'm glad you responded to my message, my heritage is important to me. Thanks Linda M. Parmann Campbell Frostick.