One suggestion would be land and probate records.I find that many New England researchers are so spoiled by reliance on the town vital records that they leave the wills and deeds untouched.The hard part might be finding where Elizabeth's prospective parents died, if like most residents of western Mass. during this period they were soon lured west by better and cheaper land.
Already by 1790, I find no Spencers on the census in Washington, Mass., or in nearby Lenox, Lee-- though curiously enough an Edward and Jessee Perin appear in Lenox.In Partridgefield (now Hinsdale & Peru) there was an Emmons Spencer, with several daughters (though of course I appreciate that Elizabeth would have likely been out of the house by 1790, with Thomas).An Eliphalet Spencer resided in Great Barrington.Widow Pheby Spencer lived in Hancock (seven females in the home), a good bit west of Washington.Jared and John Spencer lived in Egremont, in the southwestern part of the county, and not even on the path from Hebron (Conn.) to Granville.In Richmond, much closer to Washington, were Luke and Eliakim Spencer. Amasa and Daniel Spencer were in nearby West Stockbridge.The only place where I find both a Spencer and Perin family is in the gore adjoining Adams and Windsor -- Charles Spencer and Lemuel Perin (no bells ringing there).This may seem like a lot of Spencers to check out, but candidly I'm surprised that there weren't more.
On the Perrin side, as I recall the Washington County land & probate records are not much help.There's a beautiful petition for probate on file for Ephraim Perrin, but I never found anything for his father Thomas (1740-1822).The material I received from the Perrin Family Association (Carl Leslie Perrin's work) said that Thomas died in Granville in 1822.I have no reason to doubt that, as he is on the 1820 census of Washington County (page 134, next to Thomas Roberts), with an older woman who I assume is Martha (Savery) Perrin.
Your branch was long gone from Granville by then, of course.But I suspect that the male aged 26-44 on the 1800 census of Granville is your Thomas.I have no other way to account for the two boys age 10-16 and the one boy under ten in the household.William Porter Perrin wasn't married yet, so I don't believe that these are his children -- unless he was married prior to his 1802 marriage to Mary Burch, and produced a whole family of whom we know nothing.On the other hand, if William Porter Perrin was not the male aged 26-44 on the 1800 census in Thomas Perrin's household, then I suppose I ought to have an explanation for where he was.
Do you have a date for the first appearance of Thomas Jr. (1764-1835) in Ontario? The earliest item I have is the birth of daughter Orry in 1803 in Brantford.I have therefore supposed that Thomas Jr. went to Canada between 1800 and 1802.But in light of your information that he was in western Mass. between 1787 and 1791 or 1793, and my uncertainty over just who was at the Perrin homestead in Washington County in 1800, I have to rethink that.
At Washington County Deed Book I page 286 is found a deed dated 23 Feb 1798 from Thomas Perrin of Granville, farmer, to Jonathan Day Jr., for $1,000, conveying a tract of land adjoining land of Isaac Rundles, Nathan Smith and Capt. David Blakeslee's.This deed was not recorded until 26 Aug 1808.The Washington County grantor index has no other deed for Thomas Perrin (which is not to say that he might not have conveyed some land to Ephraim Perrin or other children by an unrecorded deed).This suggests that Thomas converted his land to cash, and perhaps settled his affairs among his heirs without the need for any probate or intestacy proceeding.
One aspect of this family that deserves more attention isSarah (Perrin) Hay or Hayes... and maybe her sister Martha (see below).My great grandfather Wood knew his Hay / Hayes cousins many years after this.From this, I derive that his mother (Sarah Ann (Perrin) Wood) was closer to her Perrin/Hayes relations than most of her numerous other first cousins.Shey pioneered in Walworth County, Wisconsin with Horace N. Hay, born c 1814, going by his census age.The census also says that he was born in Vermont, which is a good clue.
Some of the next generation (including Washington, Sylvanus and Charles Hay, and their sister Sarah (Hay) Wilson) later lived in Sac County, Iowa.The father of these siblings, Horace, was lost at sea off California in 1853.I have a lot of material on his children, but nothing on his parents.I figure that his mother must have been a Perrin.But which one?
Our Perrin Family Association material says nothing about whom Martha Perrin (dau. of Thomas & Martha (Savery) Perrin) may have married.But her sister Sarah is said to have "married a man named Hayes."
On the Hay genforum, I found a descendency table on George Hayes that indicated that one of this tribe -- Joseph Grant Hay -- married a Martha Perrin.Another post on the Hay forum says that Martha was supposedly born in 1769 in Bennington, Vermont; no parents listed.She is shown as having had a son Horace born about 1803 (which fits well enough except for being a decade off his census age) and it says that she died in 1816 in Vermont.
But the table also shows one Calvin Hayes (son of Joel) -- no wife listed -- as having had sons Horace and Curtiss.So without more, I'd be stuck not knowing where to attribute the Horace Hay whose sons, according to our family correspondence from about 1914, were my great grandfather's "own cousins."But from the IGI, I find that Calvin Hayes' son Horace was born in 1793 in Granby, Connecticut... really way too early to be the Horace Hay who lived in Walworth County Wis. and was lost at sea.So I'm back focusing on our cousin Horace Hay as the son of Joseph Grant Hay and his wife Martha Perrin.
The Hay/Hayes descendancy table does not appear to be complete, but at least we seem to be in the general neighborhood with this Rupert, Vermont family.
Even if you're not interested in the Hay part of this, I hope that you'll be able to provide further elucidation on the family of Thomas Jr.I know little about them other than what's provided in the book by Rev. D. A. Perrin, plus some tombstone records from Mt. Vernon and Mt. Pleasant.For one thing, I'm curious to know how far down the line got before the string of Thomases ended.The last one I found in the book was, I believe, Thomas A. Perrin, born in 1844.On the 1880 census of Cheboygan, Michigan, he is shown as having two sons, neither one named Thomas.