Dear Sue, My Dad use to talk about a Chuck Kramer.I do not know if this is the same person. My fathers mothers maiden name was Edna Pfeil and she was married to a Harry Trimbur, of Butler. I remember my Dad talking about Chuck Kramer, wheather he was a hunting buddy I do not know.My Great Grandfather was John Pfeil and he was married to Elizabeth Munn. They lived in the Southside. My Dads name was Jack Kappler and he was the only son of Edna Pfeil.My Dad was born in 1912.