Martha, Did this Reuben die serving in Rev. War? My 4 g grandfather, HARDY PENUEL/PINNELL (take your pick, there are nearly 40 versions of this name!!)seems to have 'hatched' in Franklin Co, NC, 1781. We thought his father was John PINNELL, but now looking for other possibilities (our brick wall). I've wondered if he may have been illegitimate, or born during migration, or something to account for so little on him. John PINNELL (maybe from VA)is on 1790 census Franklin Co, NC w/ three young sons, no mention of a wife. And, Hardy was appointed a guardian at some point so his dad must have died young. Hardy is on 1804 Tax List in Wilson Co, TN as landowner at age 21; perhaps he inherited a military land grant there. He m. LUCY PATTERSON in 1801 and they had 8 kids in TN. I'm descended from their 3rd son JETHRO PENUEL.There is likely a connecton between these PINIONs and PENUEL/PINNELLs; they seemed to have come from same areas, same times. BTW, I'd seen PINION referred to as a Black Dutch name. I suspect it may have same Norman French roots as PENUEL(PINEL/PAYNEL).