Kim, Sorry it has taken me so long to respond to your message. Herbert is my great grandfather, Albert i have no information on or Frederick. However Bertie i know married Maud Harriet Hill 7th April 1921 in England. They had a daughter called Edna who married and left England for Hawai (exuse the spelling !) i know she is still alive today and would be in her 70's. She was in the UK several years ago meeting my grandfather. Sorry i cant be any more help.