While there are a lot of dubious family histories out here on the Web, the Pownall's being desc. of the Norman family seems to be a strong one. That said, I risked spider bites by going through my old papers to find the records on have on this matter and hope to have them tommorrow. But from memory - there is Thomas Pownall, one of the early governors of MA. a contemporary of Ben Franklin's. Old records have him linked to the Norman family (Believe it is Burkes), and his ancestors to the town of Wilmslow in Pownall Fee. Then there is the fact that Pownall Fee means a Knights Fee to a Pownall for services rendered. There are records of this action by the Earl of Cheshire for support in his action in support of Queen Maude. An action which others Pownall's lost large estates. There is a theory that the name Pownall is the way that Paynall would be spoken by the peoples of the midlands in England. The original being Latin for something like Paganellius. You can also see it as De Pownall. Also, there are several accounts of the Pownall's as being from an ancient Cheshire family. So adding it all up, it seems to me that there is ample evidence that the Pownall's are desc. from the Norman's. Hope tommorrow to have the documents in hand and post them. Last: Who is this Mr. Justice that you mention?