Nigel, Many thanks for the info, Harold Leslie Pressnell was my grandfather and Rita was my Aunt (his daughter), and she died in August 2000, and the others I will have to look into a bit more, and it has given me a start. My Gt. Gt. grandfathers name was John William Pressnell and he married a Kate Jane Swan from Bredgar, her father was a Police Constable.It is he who I cannot go back from, all I can say was that he lived at 2 Rock Road, Milton, when Harold was born, and was a labourer at the paper mill. I don't know of his family, what brothers & sisters he had and where he was born or came from.