A Henry Ramsden of Huddersfield Yorkshire. My 5th great grandfather had two sons named John from a first marraige to Nanny Abby (perhaps one died in infancy, hence the rename) although I would of thought that bad luck. 1st born 11 Feb 1781 the second 9 apr 1788. This would make them a bit old to leave Huddersfield So perhaps a son of theirs???