Dear Sally, I have a Benjamin Ramsden born c1835 married a Mary of Pudsey born c1837. Children fron Benjamin and Mary taken fron the 1881 and 1891 census. Polly, Annie, Rosalie, William, Herbert, Joseph and George. I am going on vacation this week end for a week so will not be here. I have the 1871, 1891 and 1901 census for Wakefield and dist. 1841 and 1851 census for Alverthorpe with Thornes. I will do some research when I get back. I hope also to get the 1861 census for Wakefield. If you would like my E-Mail address let me know and I will give it to you. All the best good hunting. David.