Karen, thanks so much for sharing your information with me. It is very helpful to have this kind of information in my search. I am still looking for James Redner's home town, or home land. Germany does seem to be the logical place and that is why we have our doubts about Ireland. The confusion comes from an official paper that has him listed as being born in Ireland.I have talked with many people who have Redner ancestors who have married Irish women, and found Redners that do live in Ireland now. We wont believehe is from Ireland though until we find more proof. I still think that more than likely his family does originate in Germany. Maybe we are related. Do you know the name of your ancestors that came here in 1860? Thanks again for writing.