At least some Rember's have Pember's as their ancestors
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In reply to:
Re: Ormstown Rember
Mary Verbonac 2/21/02
My mother was a Pember. Some time ago as I am retired I decided to document as many Pember's as I could from the Pember book that I have. There are over 300 pages of genealogy in the book. Below are a few pages from the Pember book that gives some genealogy of the "Rember" line. I believe you will be interested in this. But before I do that I am going to leave a link in WorldConnect that I have to John Pember/Rember and his wife Diana Willson. John's ancestors are online here. I just need to copy more information from the book that documents them and I will do that but it takes time and I will upload the new info from time to time to show what documentation there is in the Pember book.
Here is the link:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mmcrandall_tree&id=I12137http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mmcrandall_tree&id=I12137
"John Pember, The History of the Pember Family in America"
Compiled By Mrs. Celeste Pember Hazen
Page 111-113
57. John5 (John4, John3, John2, Thomas1)
b. Lebanon Crank, Conn., abt 1777
d. prob. Abt. 1816, Lysander (Hannibal), N. Y.
(No desc. Offers records)
m. 1798 or later, Poultney, Vt., Diana Willson. Some of her folks stayed
in the Poultney-Hampton home; others went north in Vt. and Can.
ch:
114. John, Jr. b. Vt. or Can., 1800
115. Alansonb. Poultney, Vt., 1803/4
--Williamb.""
--Thomas Rember (so-called)
--Robert""
--Anna? m. (---) Keats; res. Quebec
--Maria?m. (---) Drew;"Bolton, P. Q.
--Mary?m. (---) Johnson; rem. northern Ontario
(possibly 1 or 2 more)
There is a Wells land deed to John, Jr., from his father, and another from Ralph Bell or Bill (who m, Kesiah, dau. John Reynolds, Sr. of E. Wells.) Later John, Jr. deeded the home land back to Frederick.
He is said to have gone to Canada with some of the relatives, but returned. The 1800 Census of Wells seems to count him in his father's family. He is always spoken of as residing in Poultney, and probably occupied the land his father owned in Poultney; perhaps also that which his uncles' families had left. No deeds remain, but an old grand list names John Pember, Jr. in Poultney in 1815; he had not sold it before removing, and there may have been relatives still occupying it. His marriage is known to have been in Poultney, and he had several children before permanent removal, the older ones of similar age to his father's youngest. He removed by way of Canada, or removed twice; for he had at some date
established a home near Ormstown, P. Q. Thence was an easy trip by water to Oswego County, where two of his sisters and other friends settled. Tradition has it that he settled on the land which his father had taken up in Lysander (the part which-became Hannibal), died there and was buried in the old yard near his home. (Lewis Cem.) Widow Diana and her children, except Alanson who remained with relatives, made her way back to Ormstown, and her descendants suppose she lived there until death.
At that time most of them cease to be members of the Pember family.
Whether a school-teacher misread the name supplied, or whether the change was intentional for some reason sufficient at the time, they appear hence-forward as Rember, and their children believe it was always thus.
The daughters may have left records, but their families have not been
located in this work, since they are not in this country.
Concerning the "Rember" sons named above, relatives say all three lived in Quebec, one near Stanbridge, one at St. Armand Ctr. who had two sons and removed with them to Vesta, Arkansaw, and Thomas at Magog. The latter left a son now living at Verdun; Verdun has several Rembers.
On William "Rember", the following is contrib. by gt. gr. ch., and
Cern. R:
William d. abt. 1830
res. Magog, P. Q. Both he and wife were "English" (not French)
ch: Among them was
Martha Rember b. Sept. 9, 1824; d. Feb. 27, 1897; bur. Canton, Minn.
m. Martin Beach, b. Aug. 14, 1818; d. Sept. 19, 1890,
Canton, Minn.
res. Quebec; rem. Marion, Wayne Co., N. Y; to Kalamazoo, Mich;
in 1867 to Canton, Minn. and settled on land 2 mi S. and
1 1/2 mi. E. of Canton. With his brother Jesse Beach
(1826-1898), a pioneer in Mich. and Minn.
ch (prob all b. in the East) 4:
1. Van Buren J. Beach, 1849-1925, res. Canton
m. Adelia Capron who d. after 1930
ch. none
2. Jesse O. Beach, b. June 2,1851; d. July l, 1926, Canton.
m. Sarah A. Mitson, b. Jan. 18, 1849; d. Apr. 28, 1927
ch: Ella Beach m. (----) Dahl
Edith"m. (----) Wilford
ch : Ward, Bruce, Gary, Vera, Wilford.
Vera m. (----)Brauer
Arthur "
Bennie "
Leslie " of Canton, Minn.
Lida" m. (----) Kiefer
3. Mary Beach b. 1855, abt
m. (1) (----) Hubble; (2) (----) Rich; res Canton
ch. 2. Claud Hubble
Iva"m.(1) (----) Smith; (2) (----) Sloan
res. Linton, S. D.
4. Candis Beach, m. (----) Hubble, bro. of above.
res. Amboy, Minn.
ch. l, Angie Hubble, m. Robert Sturgeon, Amboy, Minn.
In answer to an inquiry concerning the name Rember in Ormstown,
P. Q., the Protonotaire du district de Beauharnais states that records filed
begin with 1832, and "there are traces of records between 1848 and 1856
under the name Rembers, which records are partly of children of birth to
Robert and Thomas, and furthermore there is a marriage entry in 1846 of
Thomas Rembers to Ann Monteith, at the Huntingdon Episcopal Church."
(Is this bridegroom son, or grandson, of John-5 Pember?)
N. B. There is no reason to suppose that any kind of records were
being made in Hannibal (then in Lysander) at the time of John's death.
Here is what is in the Pember book about his son John.
"John Pember, The History of the Pember Family in America"
Compiled by Mrs. Celeste Pember Hazen
Page 161
114. John6 (John5, John4, John3, John2, Thomas1)
b. abt 1800, Canada or Poultney, Vt.
d. Feb. 14, 1868, Franklin, Vt., of cancer on chin; bur.
E. Franklin. This rec. is from Vt. Bur. Vit. Stat.,
taken from the Franklin town rec., and has his name
John Pember and name of both parents clearly given,
Desc. say he was called Rember like themselves.
m. (---), Alburg, Vt.
res. Northern N. Y. (Ormstown) until death of his mother;
rem. Alburg, Vt., after marriage rem. Franklin
occ. laborer (on bur. permit)
--------
ch. 2 sons and 4 dau. used the name Rember, and desc.
believe any other spelling an error.
Edwin Remberlived E. Berkshire, Vt. (see Childs' Gaz.)
Amos"d. 1935; bur. E. Franklin, Vt., where he lived
ch. Among them Lillian Rember who m. (---)
Dodge, and is a school-teacher in Worcester, Vt.
Martha"d. 1920 abt
m. Charles Cutler
res. Springfield, Vt.
ch. Carmi Cutler
(---)"who m. Ernest Cutler.
et al (means, "and others")