Hi Linda, Many thanks for your replies and the copies of e-mails containing info on the Rhinds of Moray. Your info has confirmed all the research I have done so far and I am very pleased to receive it. Thankyou! I appear to be on the same track as Bob Stewart of NJ with the descendants of my CHARLES RHIND. Since you are descended from the line of WILLIAM RHIND & ELIZABETH JAMESON I was hoping you might have known if my CHARLES RHIND was the same one b 15.8.1804 to ELIZABETH & WILLIAM RHIND but obviously from what you say there is no proof of that one way or another yet. Since I do not have a date for, & have not seen a copy of, the marriage entry for CHARLES RHIND & JEAN PHIMISTER I do not know about the witness THOMAS RHIND, but like you I would suspect, from my research experience, that it is more likely to be hisbrother than his father.
At the moment I am interested in a JEAN PHIMISTER b 20.11.1805 in FORRES, MORAY. Her father was ALEXANDER PHIMISTER & mother JANET SIMSON. Do you know where FORRES is please? Would it be anywhere near DUFFUS? Would it be feasible that she might have married CHARLES RHIND b 15.8.1804? At the moment I am working on the theory that she may have married CHARLES RHIND because she would fit in with the naming conventions of children at that time---ie the firstborn son named after the paternal grandfather (ie WILLIAM RHIND) and the second born son named after the maternal grandfather (ie ALEXANDER RHIND). The only problem with this is the age given for JEAN RHIND nee PHIMISTER on the Census returns---although in my experience they did occasionally tell fibs about their age!!
Anyway for what its worth this is where my RHINDS fit in:- GENERATION 1 I agree with the fact that CHARLES RHIND was a Farm Worker and he married a JEAN (JANE) PHIMISTER I agree they had 3 children:- 1)Margaret RHIND b 2.11.1828 2)William RHIND b 2.10.1829 3)Alexander RHIND b <1834>
GENERATION 2 My line of RHINDS are in LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND and are descended from 3) ALEXANDER RHIND b <1834>
ALEXANDER RHIND married JANE JONES nee WILSON on 1st March 1868 (This was Jane's 2nd Marriage)at St Nicholas Church, LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND They had 3 children:- 1) Alexander Charles RHIND b <1869> 2) Jane Wilson RHIND b <1873> 3) GEORGE HAMPSHIRE RHIND b 18th March 1878 LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND
GENERATION 3 My line of RHINDS are descended from 3)GEORGE HAMPSHIRE RHIND b 1878
GEORGE HAMPSHIRE RHIND married MABEL BROMLEY on 28th July 1906 at the Parish Church of St Chad, EVERTON, LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND They had 3 children:- 1) FREDERICK RHIND B 5th February 1908 2) William RHIND b <1910> 3) Winifred RHIND b <1915>
GENERATION 4 My line of RHINDS are descended from 1)FREDERICK RHIND b 1908
FREDERICK RHIND married Mary Dooner in Ireland and had 3 female children (still living)in LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND Following the marriages of FREDERICK RHIND'S 3 daughters (one of which is my line of RHINDS) the name of RHIND has died out in my line.
I hope you can understand all this!! I will continue researching my CHARLES RHIND and if anything turns up I will let you know!! Once again, Many thanks, Regards, Geoff