My grandfather was Henry "Hank" Ringer and was married to Hennietta Lightner. They moved to the Buffalo area (specifically Blasdell, New York) in the early 1920's from Taos, New Mexico, where Hank had been working as a gold miner/propector. They had two daughters: Donna, who was born January 6, 1921 and died in 2002 of complications from Alsheimer's disease, and Betty Ruth (my mother) who was born January 5, 1923 and is currently living in Great Valley, New York. She knows most of the recent Ringer history. As I will be visiting her shortly, I'll pick her brains and forward to the information to you. Hope this is of some help.