I have been told by Patrick's grandson, who's married to a first cousin and is Canadian, that Patrick had eleven other sons besides John who was my source's father. For names, all I have are George, Michael, Francis, Charles, besides John. I have no dates. Unfortunately, the family wasn't a particularly close one: at least not genealogically prescient. If anyone has any information on these folks, please either call me at 571-242-9098 or email me at firstname.lastname@example.org. I greatly appreciate any assistance anyone might afford me.