My records show John II (b.1746) the second child of John (b. 1708) and Hester (or Ester) Thrift.(BTW, H. or E. had a subsequent marriage to Thomas Critcher.)John II (b. 1746) married Ann Jordan about 1772.But, I only have two of their children, Elizabeth (b. 1774) and Jane Murray (b. 1774). Twins?Do you have any info.on John III, were there other children?