I have a problem and need some help or advice from someone who knows more about this family than I do.As the rest of you, I have had Elizabeth Ruddell married to Ewing Summers (and the Wagnon man also).However, yesterday I wa given some information from a book called My Forsythe Saga by Phillip G. Wheeler (July 1982).I will quote the book:
"Ewing Summer was a white man, and Elizabeth RIDDLE was a Choctaw Indian.Isaac Williams made the following sworn statement in 1896:
"I was acquainted with the Riddles in Mississippi.I knew Elizabeth Riddle. She was a Choctaw, almost, if not entirely full blood.I knew her father, whose name, as I remember, was John.Elizabeth had one sister, Eliza and several brothers among whom were William and George, She had an uncle named Sam. "She married a man in Mississippi by the name of Ewing Summers and she and he moved with the Indians when about 4000 of them left for the Territory. "A great number of the Indians stopped on the way, particularly in Arkansas as they came on boats up the Arkansas River and some through by land. "Elizabeth and her husband stopped somewhere in Arkansas, somewhere about Cane Hill, and lived there as long as I knew her, or until Summers her husband died."
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"Summers was a white man.Elizabeth's father died just about the time we were leaving Mississippi.I did not know her mother.Other members of her father's family came on to the territory.I moved to the country now knowed as the Chickasaw Nation.I lived about three years at Boggy Depot, then moved over on Blue and lived in this part of the territory ever since."
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" Sam, one of Elizabeth's uncles died in the Choctaw Nation as did also William.There are or were a lot of the family of younger Riddles in the Choctaw Nation before and after the war.Elizabeth Riddle or Summers was a Choctaw by blood and known by the the Indians to be a Choctaw."
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He also makes the statement that he remembers Elizabeth well and describes her as a rather large, fat, portly woman, dark complexioned and had very long heavy, hair, long enough for her to sit on.
It further states that he is 93 years of age.
Another statement was made by a man named Humady Williams, age 92.The book states:
"Before the undersigned authority on this day appeared Humady Williams of lawful age who by me duly sworn on oath says:My name is Humady Williams.My age is 92 years.I live in the Chickasaw nation.I was born in Mississippi near Pontotoc.I was raised by Moses Perry a Chickasaw full blood Indian who married a full blood Chickasaw Indian woman.I was raised among the Chickasaw and Choctaw Indians and left with them when they came to the Territory.I understand Chickasaw, Choctaw, and English.At the old land sale at Pontotoc I acted as interpretor for Indians and whites and continued to interpret for several years after I came to the Indian Territory especially at Tishomingo and Stone Hill when the Indians were drawing annuity money and provisions.I was acquainted with a family by the name of Riddle in Mississippi.I was well acquainted with Elizabeth Riddle in Mississippi.She was a Choctaw, nearly full blood.I knew her father, whose name was John.Elizabeth had one sister Eliza and several brothers I only remember one of their names-George. Sam was her uncle.She married a man in Mississippi by the name of Ewing Summers who was a white man.They left with the Indians when they left for the territory.Elizabeth and her husbnd stopped somewhere in Arkansas as well as I can remember close to a place called Cane Hill and stayed there for several years." END QUOTE
He also goes on to describe her as a rather large, portly woman, dark complexioned and had very long heavy hair.
So, from this information it would appear that this Elizabeth is the same Elizabeth as the one we are calling Elizabeth RUDDLE.We have 2 witnessess, albeit 90 plus years of age, who state her name was RIDDLE and her father's name was John.The first man also goes on to talk about the daughter Rachel who married a man named Beaty, which futher indicates it is the same family.In other information I was given (quite a lot of it from their applications for membership in the Choctaw Nation) it also states that Elizabeth had a sister named Martha who married a man named Edmonds.Elizabeth's family that applied was denied membership while Martha's family was admitted.
There is a link on this forum for a Captain John Riddle - message number 695.Follow the link and you can read the information provided by the OK Historical Society.It seems to support the information given by these gentlemen in my opinion.
I would like to know what the rest of you think of this information.Do you think it is valid?If so, it would appear we need to do some revising of our information.I would be more than happy to scan and send this information to anyone who would like to see the actual copies.Thanks for your help.