IF and MAYBE
Yes, that is all true IF the SALE ancestry we've seen is TRUE. I like to look at ALL the angles. Just from the bit of onlien research I did this evening..I already have questions. Will inlcude my notes at bottom.
Regarding the Barbara SHELL Haven/Heaven being sister-in-law to William SALE..here is a bit of connecting the dots, OR may explain how someone interpreted it to be so. Not sure myself yet.
My speculation on the SALE family being GERMAN is because of the number of German given names I find in these lines in NC.Actually I think the Shell families were originally on the German border in Holland. And I think the SALLE were French Hugenots..thus living in the Palantinate of GER. All conjecture I'm looking to prove.
AS for the Wife of William SALE...I've not seen the original person's theory or Sale-Shell marriage, so I can't say.What I found tonight show some Sale-Shell connection.
Jacob Shell born 1720 has son, James Shell who married a Margaret "Peggy" Salle circa 1760 VA. This from the Will of Jacob Shell Sr below:
Early Adventurers on the Western Waters, vol. 1, pp. 266-269 by Mary B. Kegley and F. B. Kegley has a biographical sketch of Jacob Shell, Sr. and the Shell family.Jacob Shell was born in Pennsylvania in 1720 then moved south into Virginia first into Shenandoah County before appearing in 1756 on an Augusta County tithable list.He was first mentioned as a permanent resident on the New River in 1767.Tradition says Indian attacks drove him from the area earlier accounting for the gap between 1756 and 1767.
It is said that Jacob Shell Sr.born 1716/1720 Germany, lived in PA before coming to VA ( with the Hites) then on to New River in Montgomery Co Va ( where I grew up), then due to Indian battles went back to Shenandoah Valley and some went to NC. At any Rate this Jacob Shell married Catherine and Barbara Shell Haven was a daughter named in his will as well as James Shell who married Margaret "Peggy"SALLE.Yes this is a bit later than the William Sale-Ann Shell marriage if it does indeed exist...but it tells a tale of POSSIBILITIES. As does the fact that Cornelius Sale worked in the Moravian Village..could be because his mother was a Shell/Shaul/Schell??? Perhaps JACOB SHELL DID HAVE A SISTER NAMED NANCY WHO MARRIED WILLIAM SALE..we don't have any other record of him marrying!!!
Sons of John Shell of VA
STEPHEN SHELL CIRCA 1732-1821 d. NC
Born Surry, Virginia with his two brothers:
William Shell c.1728-1807 d.SC
John Shell C.1730-1794 d.Brunswick Co., Va.
Name: Stephen Shell
Born: ABT. 1732at: Surry County, Virginia
Married: ABT. 1757
Died: FEB 1821at: Warren County, North Carolina
Peter SHOUPE 200 On PETERSON's Creek , transferred to John
BURKE COUNTY, NC - DEEDS - Miscellaneous Land Records
SOME LAND ENTRIES FOR BURKE COUNTY, NC, 1778-1779
One of my ancestors Jacob Chrisman's sons/grandsons married a Shell..Chrisman came to VA with Jost Hite as did others of German descent from Ger, Pa and NY.
He is my conglomeration of notes taken this evening..still looking..Deb
of the Palatine, Germany
PA; Shenandoah Co., VA; Augusta Co., VA; Montgomery Co., VA
Jacob Shell, his Last Will.
In the name of God Amen I Jacob Shaul Sen'r of the County of Mongomery being weak body but of perfect mind & memory caullin to mind the Mortality of my Body Do make this my Last Will and Testament. Imprimus, I recommend my Soul to the Almity God that Gavieth and my body to the earth to be buried in a chrsstan like and in a Decent maner at the Discretion of my friends and as tuching such worldy Estate where with it hath pleased God to bless me with in this life I will bequeth and Disspose of the same in the maner and form falling that is to say I will Direct that all my Just Dbtsof every kind and whatever be paid in maner herein Divided. First I give and bequeth unto my Loving wife Cathrine Shaul all my household and kitchen furniture and the Nate? cattle clamed by me on the plantation together with one third of the land of the land of the plantation whereon I live, her third not to exced the third of the plantation that I formerly Gve to my son Jacob Shaul. I then will devise and bequeth unto my son Jacob Shaul Junier his heirs and assigns forever all the track of Land whereon I live on the South Side of new River containing two hundred acres more of less and a servd ajoining on the South side made by John Preston and also all the farming utensils on the said place the wagon and gairs together whih two horses a bay and a Sorrel on his paying or causing to be paid in property to his six Sisters the sum of ten pounds each, within three years after my Decease. I then will devise and bequeth unto my son John Shaul all the property of every kind whatsoever which I have before give him and now in his possition and to his heirs or assigns forever on his paying or causing to be paid to his brother Christian Saul fifty pounds in property within three years after my Decease.
I then I give bequeth and devise unto my son Christian Shaull and his and assigns forever all the tract of Land whereon he formerly lived on a branch of Shubels Creek containing eighty acres and known by the name of Gusesys place together whith a serrey mad by John Custer adjoining thereunto and also fifty pounds to be paid to him by hisbrother John Shuall and also all the property here before give him and now in his possession.Then I give and devise unto my Daughters Catherine and Elizabeth Shaull all the Stock and property of Every kind claimed by them before which the heve on the place and also all 1 mare five years old unto Elizabeth Shaull and also Catherine Shaull to be maintained of the plantation where I live as long as she shall Live. And then I give and Devise unto my Daughter Gertrud Williams, Phanney Wall, Molly Heve, Peggey Salles, Barbary Heven, Nancy Taylor the sum of ten pounds Each to be paid in property within three years after my Decease to be paid unto them by my son Jacob Shaull. And Lastly I nominate constitute and apoint my son Jacob Shaull Junier and John Shall my son my Executors to this my Last will and testament and I do hereby Revoke anull and make Void all other former Wills by me made or Executed Declaring this to be my only last will and testament. Signed and Acknowledged by me this seventeenth day of February one thousand seven Hundred and ninty five. Signed Sealed and Acknowledged and Likewise Declared by me Jacob Shaull to be my last will and Testament before Witnesses.
Jacob (X-his mark) Shaull
Samuel (X-his mark) Spery
At Montgomery September Court 1802
This Last will and testament of Jacob Shell deceased was presented in court and proved by the oath of William Heavin a witness thereto, who says that Benjamin Sperry and Samuel Sperry attested the same in the presence and at the request of the Testator; John Preston, James Sallust and William Heavin made oath that the attestation in the name of Adam Wall they varily believe to be the hand writing of Adam Wall deceased and there upon It is ordered to be Recorded. And on the montion of Jacob Shell one of the executors therein named who made oath, and entered into bond, with securily according to Law Certificate is granted him for obtaining a probate thereof in due form.
from my friend greg roseberry
By 1752 Jacob Shell-Shull was leaving Shenandoah country and moving again, this time to New River where he stayed several years.Shell bought land in the Patton grant on Crab Creek that Patton had sold to Ebenezer Waistcoat-Westcott. This was in bottomland and higher land along New River beside Augustine and Henry Price and Adam Wall and sister Apel Wall. On his high ridges Shell put his house, fort and settlement. These places today are on the Montgomery County side of New River in the Radford Arsenal grounds. (Jim Price Interview)
Indian hostility drove the settlers from New River in 1755. The Shells write, "Owing to Indian hostility Jacob went back to Shenandoah and stayed fourteen years." (Shell Sketch). Shell's neighbors Augustine and Henry Price fled also to Shenandoah. Waistcoat-Westcott went to the Carolinas. (CH,III 451-52)
After fourteen years away from New River, according to the Shell manuscript, Shell returned in 1769 to Crab Creek of the New. At the Treaty of Fort Stanwix this land was bought from the Iroquois. George Taylor and Thomas Burk buy land from Shell at this place in 1769. (Augusta Dd Bk 15, 282)
SHELL families VA to NC
Here in Warren Co NC where Wm Sale's grandson, William SAle married Mary Townes in 1796, is John SHell in 1785 as a buyer at an estate sale:
15 Feb.1785; July Ct.1785. Sale Est. SAMUEL YEARGAIN, dec'd., by NATHL. MASON,
Stephen Shell, Sr, Stephen Shell, Jr, John Shell, Sugar Jones, Francis Jones, etc....."from
Abstracts of Warren Co., N.C. Will Book 4
John, Stephen, William Shell born in Surry County, VA around 1728 to 1730.
Husband: William Shell
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Born: 9 SEP 1759at: Surry County, Virginia
Married: ABT. 1785at: Brunswick County, Virginia
Died: 1 SEP 1822at: Whitmire, Newberry District, South Carolina
Lots more to come!!