Hi Richard: Thanks very much for the connection. I managed to link up with the ancestral Sauve line. I thought I remembered you from somewhere and then I found that I had answered a message regarding Malvina Cardinal. I have posted her Cardinal ancestral line from Pierre Trudeau on the Cardinal Genforum. If you have any further questions on Cardinal's, Vachon's, Belec's or Riopel's please ask. Sorry I don't have the Agnes Clark line.