I will be calling my aunt in the weeks to come and will ask her info about Charles, William (Willie) and others. I don't know how much she remembers or what paper trails she has...I don't suspect shw has much inasmuch as she had asked me to findout info.She does not have a family bible. I may be able to provide you with family stories, etc.I remember visiting some of the S.F. family in the late 60's and early 70's.I can fill you in on my mine and my father's generational links. If your on facebook friend me Jody jensen rellar.