Eckhard, thank you so much for this information, I have searched for it but not been able to find it.I was told before that Stengel was not a Wiesthal name. What is the source of the information that you sent ?Any further information on Anton Stenger or Rosina Kleespies would be appreciated.Also any record of any other children for them other than Eva ? Your help is very much appreciated....thank you !!Danke sehr !!