Hello Ken. I tried to e-mail you but message bounced back. I think Joseph c1837 is my great-great grandfather via his son Joseph born 23 August 1864 who I believe married Alice Elizabeth Latcham c1888 and had four children at Shildon : Arthur, Eva, Cecil and Raymond(born 25 August 1902) the latter my Grandad. Thankyou for your information on the site. I didn't know about the 1837 Joseph at all. If you find out more about him or where he was born exactly I'd be very interested.