Hi Barbara, I have Anna Johannetta's name as LORENZ, do you have that? I have a problem with our line since I can't find the father and mother of Joh. born 1640, at Diedelkopf, who died at Heltersberg. His son Joh. b. 1690 m. Anna Eva KLEIN and we can connect from there on down. I'm trying to find Nickel Seyfried's, (1586) son Abraham's (1616) children to try to tie into them. He was bro. to your Hans. If you have anything more on those early lines, I'd love to hear about them. S.