Penny, I am Jefferson L. Shinpaugh, son of Carl L. Shinpaugh, who is the son of Herbert Lyle Shinpaugh. I'm not sure of my grandfather's birth date, but he must be the same Herbert Shinpaugh that you are looking for. My dad has quite a bit of genealogy on our line of the family, but there are still a few unanswered questions that we have. If you are still interested, I can send you (or have Dad send you) the information that I have. Here's a brief view of Herbert's immediate line: He married Jewel Cline in 11-6-33. They had 4 kids, Herbert Jr., Carl, Wilma, and Elaine. Carl married Gratie Ann Prock in 10-6-58 and they had Jefferson L., Douglas L., and Melissa Ann. I can give you the rest of the descendants if you like. I will also try to get in touch with Brenda Schulz, who responded to your message.