The Shively researchers on the early Shively's (Christian, Jacob, and Henry) in Jefferson Co, KY believe that the father of these men is Michael Shively and wife Christina (or Hannah).This proof comes from land records in which for the most part are found in Berkeley County, VA Deed Books.The deeds do list Christian as a son of Michael and Christina (I use the name Hannah because in one deed she is listed as Hannah).Mary, wife of Christian, was not examined before leaving Pa-WVa in regards to the sell of their land so there is also a wonderful "paper trail".Mary is examined in Jefferson County, KY and the information sent back to Berkeley County (Berkeley Co VA Deeb Book 7, Pages 281-282). John Michael Shively wife:Christina(or Hannah) Children: 1. Eva Dorothea Schauffle born 9-March-1740 bapt 10-Aug-1740 Monocacy Luth Church, Frederick Co, MD 2. John Christian Schaufele born 25-Oct-1749 bapt 23-June-1747 St Matthew's Luth Chur York Co, PA 3.John Schaufele born 14-April-1749 bapt 26-May-1749 St Matthew's Luth Churc York Co, PA 4.John Jacob Scheiffele born 9-July-1751 bapt 17-May-1752 Christ Evangelical Lut City of York, PA 5.John Heinrich Scheifele born 27-Jan-1759 bapt 4-March-1759 Sherman's (St. Davids) Union Church, York Co, PA If anyone else has information on these families we would appreciate help. It is futher believed that the Michael Shively SR came to America on the ship, St. Andrew, which arrived in Philadelphia on 27-Oct-1738.