Teena, I am very very sorry I haven't gotten back to you sooner - In reguard to Shively in Indian attack in 1780. I had to find my "stuff" and check out the reference I had for it. I found it in the Marion Co. Public Library in Lebanon,Ky. The name of the book is History of the Hardin - Harding FamilyEarly Settlement of KentuckyBy: Jack Hardin, Jr. It is all about the trials and hardships of the Hardin/ Harding families and their companions on their journey and early settlement in Ky. from the Mongahelia region of Pa. It goes into great detail about an Indian attack on the 20th of March 1870, when several of their party were killed and some of the women and children were taken prisoners. He states there were 15 families-all related by blood or marriage, not all were mentioned. Mentioned were: Jacob Davis and wife Susan Payne, Samuel,Patrick and Daniel Payne (these 3 were brothers),Sallie, daughter of Samuel Payne, who married Thomas Harding (my ancestors)Jacob Shively,(his wife and child were killed in this furious attack -Jacob was later wounded and captured then very Horribly burned at the stake and his dead remains drug around the Indian camp for all to see. (This was witnessed by the women and children who were taken prisoners- they even had to help gather the limbs and brush for the fire.)This is all VERY VIVIDLY described! There is Much Much more,Lots on the Hardin/Harding families. The writer states "This Payne family became so linked by marriage with the Hardins, Hardings, and Davises that they were reckoned one of the branches. They reckoned themselves as a party to everything that concerned any of the other three families.They were brave,enterprising, high-toned men. They were cousins to the renowned Tom Payne, but did not second his infidelity." There is not much said about the Shively family-this Jacob cannot be our ancestor since he and his family were killed. I sure would LOVE to know who he was though! This book was published in 1915 by the Baptist World Publishing Company, Louisville, Kentucky. (No address)It is a paperback, 81/2 x11, 116 pgs., no index. There is a $15 sticker in the book. There is also an address stamped inside the book: Clara Harding Craddock, 1004 Audubon Pkwy. Louisville, Ky. and a sticker in the book with this address: Arland W. Benningfield, 2196 Janlyn Road, Lou.,KY. 40299-1718. This last address might be the best place to inquire about this book since he donated it to the library. Hope this helps you. If these are your Paynes let me know, mine are noted above, I don't have a lot of informarion on them so maybe you can help me!