Hello I dont know if this will help you or not, I believe my great grandfather may be Barbara's brother. His name was Benjamin Franklin Shively, according to his death certificate, he was born in Ohio in 1834 and died in Kalamazoo MI in 1916, so you might try looking it that paticular state. It states that his mothers name was Barbara Asherman and fathers name was Benjamin F Shively. It says that both of them were born in Penn. I've been having trouble myself finding out anything about the Ashermans , and anything about the Shively's before my great grandfathers father.