I would like to exchange what little information I have about the Shively's. This is my e-mail address, email@example.com, send me your mailing addreess and I would be happy to send you a copy of Ben Shivelys death certificate. I also have a copy of his obituary from a local paper. I didnt know Ben had a sister until I ran accross your posting, I knew he had a brother Isaac , I have a couple census listings for him , Barbara and Ben. And where both Ben and Isaac are burried. Ben had two families from two different wives, his last child bein born when he was 61 and his wife 31.