Hi..I'm new to this stuff but getting better! My grandfather was John Shober. Originally from Saugerties NY but ended up in the Philly area. He had 13 brothers and sisters and his fathers name was casper. John married mary Lebeck from Cumberland Maryland and there are still a bunch of Shobers in Cumberland.I have a good handle on my grandfathers siblings but it gets thin when we get to Caspers immediate family.