Thank you for the information.We live in Ocala Florida.I would like further information.I have never had any luck on her line and this is very appreciated by my wife and I'll pass it on to her other relatives. Are you based in England? I unfortuately don't have any Coplands to help you with.Do you want any further information from me? I never had access to the British census.Great source though. My wife got a kick out of her Great Grandmother's maiden name being Kate Middleton.Have the Shorten always been English.There seems to be very many Irish Shortens when I do my search.