Arnie- Sorry for asking for your William's date - that previous email didn't show & I didn't remember. Let's work together because that close we've got to be related!. Your William's father John might be a brother to my Anna Catharina Shreiner. I'm at firstname.lastname@example.org I've not had good cooperation in getting Lancaster Co records via mail or email. I had Lanc. Co. Genea. search for A. Catharina, but they said they found nothing. We need someone there to plow thru the old land records, don't you think? Have you seen all the material on Martin Shreiner the famous clockmaker & his family?