I'm having a ball with that PA Archive Land Record site you sent to me. Thanks a million. Not finding reasonable Shreiner names/times to pursue however. I wonder if their tax lists are yet online. Years ago I pursued the humongous volumes of the PA Archives at our state library - what a task! No comprehensive index. Now I hear they are putting them online. Looks like if we are related - our earliest (my 1753 mg to your 1797 birth) are a couple of generations apart. Ah, well..... Thanks again.