Margie, Thanks so much in helping me with the Joseph Madison Smitherman/Rachel Davis line. This helped clear up many gaps.As far as this Joel M. Smitherman of Texas that married Hettie, he seems to be the son of Garrett or Gary Smitherman, b. abt 1817, N.C.His name was Joseph M. b. abt 1844, Bibb Co., Al. (1850). It seems he went by Joe, J. M., or Joel & his d.o.b. changed with the census. Can you give me the parents of Jesse Smitherman, b. Dec. 25, 1807/08 N.C., wife Dorthy Garner, b. abt. 1805, N.C. Thanks again for your help & all the work you have put into this research. Alex.