well i finaly, really looked at my copy of col. dave and the schroff conn. and found my family in apendix b. im only posting this because there are some errors and additions, if anyone actually cares. on pg. 455 my father is listed as mike schroff and has two brothers jerry and peter. well, we spell our name sroufe and not schroff, i'm not sure where the change came in. somewhere before adrian harmon i beleive. jerry is actually sp. gerry. margaret's maiden name is drescher, and she's still alive at 90. all three sons have had children, me being one of them but i will not list them for privacy.