In addition to my last reply, I will add that your grandfather and grandmother lived in New York City with a few other relatives. One of those relatives would be your Aunt Katie Stukes. She was your grandmother's sister (Gertrude). Your Grand aunt Katie had a raging affair with your grandfather. Yes, while he was married to her sister, your grandmother. Some people called him Dilly and others called him Ham. As I know it, he and your grand aunt had a true love affair for several years. Finally, when too many people found out about it, then it ended, with your grandfather still pining over her. Your grand aunt Katie then joined a church and as the story goes, she then began an affair with the Pastor who was married with ten or eleven children right in the same church. I have stories of a grand cousin who died while having an abortion. I'll get that information together. Let me know if you want to hear more. I'm in SC.