Hazel, I have just picked up your message. You may not be 'off the track' as you think. I have just found a distant cousin (or rather he found me) whose family come from Bury/Macclesfield in Lancashire. One of our ancestors, born in Dublin, had 18 children (no T.V.) and we have been tracking them. So far we are missing five children. Send me your E mail address and I will send you a tree either by e mail or post. My PC had a problem recently and I lost a lot of info' so I am at present collating it all back again. This time I am saving it to CD Rom.Nice to hear from you .....regards Pat T.