William,Thanks for your reply to my request. I'm pretty sure that the Alex Tingen you are talking about was my grandad. I'm not sure as to what his dad's name was but he has a daughter that lives in Virginia whom I will contact and see if she knows anything about Effie Tingen. I have also heard of the Red Tingen. My uncle Dalton Tingen lived in Virginia for awhile but moved to Stantonsburg. He has passed on but his wife Elsie lives there still. My dad died eight days before I was born in 1954. His name was also Linwwod (LC).