good man anthony, us 'choots' have got to stick together. spend your life life telling people how not to say it only to find theres someone across the sea doing the exact opposite! anyway, i assume your familys irish ( though i know tuites have been in lancashire since 1914-look at the war memorials!). whereabouts are they from? mine are from limerick city though originally from dublin. they now live, like me, in north london.