Barbara, My husbands father is William Arnold Utter, but what you sent is very interesting. As I had written I did not have Amanda's maiden name, but William Arnold's father's name is Arnold BEACH Utter. There still might be a connection. What I have as James & Amanda's children are - Martha, Frances, Nancy, James A.,Harriet, Saphronia, Salina, & Willy B. (Willy is Arnold's Father) Hope to here from you soon & thank you for your reply. Kathy P.S. All of James & Amanda's children were born in Michigan.