Yes, nothing was meant to disparage Dave's or Jamie's work. I was just expressing frustration with the reality that many of my brick walls are brick walls to everyone else looking in the same directions, when I was hoping for more professional folks to have knocked through them and shed light on new genealogical territories.
I'd have also thought the scientific method would have pounded the latest editions of the peerage books into decent shape by now.(By analogy, the wikipedia pages, with few exceptions, seem much better than they used to.)Sure, that sort of spinning probably started as depicted in "A Knight's Tale" with folks trying to pump up their heritage to appear descended from religious leaders and others believed to have been great.(I know for a fact that folks who wrote and directed it were certainly aware and poking a bit of fun at it :B-)But I would have thought quite a bit of the totally bogus material had been cross-checked, challenged, compared with DNA studies of reputed descendants, etc., and corrected by now... especially now that we're not encumbered with looking only at tiny portions of Y or mtDNA to trace only fathers' fathers'... and mothers' mothers'..., but it has become practical to examine complete sequences of all of the chromosomes and crunch the stats to more precisely trace back.
Most of the elation I've seen in people who find out that one of their ancestors was a part of the "nobility" is that it would seem to make their genealogy work easier than unending rocky trails of peasant/tenant farmers and butchers and spinners and weavers and such who leave few written traces.Then again, there' a silly pleasure in the mythological "genealogies" that reach back to Adam Ha Rishon and Chava (known to more as Adam and Eve), or to Odin or Genghis Khan or Seiwa or Nefertiti or Kung Fu Tzu or Huang-Ti...
My lines' specialty seems to have been planting themselves firmly on opposite sides in the great struggles and wars of each age... and forming complex cousinage networks across the lines of battle.
"Finally, near Troyes [along the Seine in northeast-central France], a coalition of Ostrogoths and Franks turned back Attila and his armies.The Huns left more than dead Europeans in their wake." --- Steve Olson 2002_Mapping Human History: Genes, Race, and Our Common Origins_ pg185
"At the individual level, people have to decide how much they want to know about their own ancestry." --- Steve Olson 2002_Mapping Human History: Genes, Race, and Our Common Origins_ pg117