What follows is the excerpt of Mr. Van Curen’s description of the initial meeting of Luther and Maria Van Siclenposted August 21 #678 by Van Curen:His description of that meeting is a total fabrication and another example of the lies which Van Curen continues to create for all historical Eastling documents. This is the Van Curen lie that again brought me back to this forum in order to continue my on going rebuttals of Van Curen’s on going lies. What Van Curen has done to Violetta’s description of the initial meeting of Luther and Maria Van Siclen Eastling cannot be either justified or even rationalized. Van Curen’s description reveals the character of a man whose speculations about the Eastling/Van Siclen history are completely out of control. Van Curen appears to be absolutely desperate in his attempt to put down anything that carries the mark of Eastling and or Van Siclen.
Van Curen’s post #678August 21:
Quote - “Until then, here is what it looks like from the outside looking in” - Unquote
Following is Van Curens’s version of Violetta Voorhees 1924 family letter wherein Violetta describes the initial meeting of Luther and Maria Van Siclen:
Quoting Van Curen – “12 year old Maria meets Luther, a Canadian soldier serving the British, on a trip from Canada to New York Harbor (from a family letter relating the story of how the couple met) and they marry in 1814. They wait 10 years...until 1825...to have their first known child. Think about that...a Canadian soldier serving the British calmly sailing into New York Harbor @ 1814. “ – Unquote.
Every reader should take special care to note that Van Curen says – “ (from a family letter relating the story of how the couple met)”.
Quoting Violetta Voorhees’s 1924 “family letter” describing the initial meeting of Luther and Maria Van Siclen:
“ It was his pride that he had sailed into every port on the globe and had rounded Cape horn twice. It was on a trip entering New York harbor he met Maria Van Sickle or Sicklen as it is sometimes spelled his future wife. This is all I could find out”- Unquote.
Violetta wrote nothing about a British soldier sailing into NY harbor, does not mention Maria’s age, does not mention a marriage or date of 1814, does not mention children, does not mention waiting 10 years for their first child.
On the other hand Van Curen, and not Violetta Voorhees, has a British soldier during the 1812 war sailing into New York Harbor. I have to wonder if Van Curen pictures Luther arriving in NY harbor on a British war ship, as a passenger on a ship dressed in the Glengarry Militia uniform or dressed in civilian clothes as a spy.
Then Van Curen has the gall to state –“(from a family letter relating the story of how the couple met) ”. Van Curen’s description of the meeting of Luther and Maria is an unmitigated intentional lie based on nothing but a fabrication of non-existent events created within Van Curen’s own overactive imagination.
I submit that whatever Luther Calvin Eastling may have been, he was not the fool that Van Curen would have us believe when he has Luther“sailing into New York harbor as an enemy British soldier in war time”.
The ongoing perfidy of Van Curen is without precedent for even a self-proclaimed researcher.
Mr. McCool do you continue to endorse Van Curen’s sandbagging and lying assessments of Eastling documents and believe him to be a “genealogist’?