Doug, You are so knowledgeable about Vermillion ancestry, I wonder if you have anything on Benjamin Vermillion? He is on census records in 1830 Stokes County, NC,wife Rebecca Roberson. 1860 census in Forsyth County NC, wife Sarah Perdue,sons William Harrison,& Josha D. A deed filed in Rockingham County NC August 6th 1825 from William Harrison, Grandfather to (John) & Rebecca Mobley, Abraham Vermillion. (Nelson) & Charity Pirtle, James Vermillion, Anne Vermillion, & Benjamin Vermillion. I have reason to believe Benjamin's father was Guy Vermillion married to Sarah Jacobs 5-15-1782. I cannot get any further back than this. I do not have a link to the "famous Giles" line.