Is an Emanuel Vivian the grandfather of John Grubb (1652 -1708) of Delaware
AGrubb pedigree claimed byJudge Ignatius Grubb of Delaware after a visit at the Grubb Eastwell Mansion in Potterne in 1893 stated that John Grubb Esq., a Royalist, removed from Wiltshire after the death of Charles the 1st in 1649 to a more remote and securecountry of Cornwall and married Helen Vivian from an ancient Vivian family.(Revisions and Additions by Harriet Grubb Graham in 1998)
Elinor (Helen) Vivian b.?d. 1666 in Stoke Climsland, Cornwall Eng.m . 1651 John Grubb b. 1614in Wiltshire,d. 1670Stoke Climsland.She was probably a daughter of an Emanuel Vivian.Soon after their marriage they had had a son John Grubb b. 1652 and also had George and Sarah Grubb in 1663 and probably others. JohnGrubbm. Frances and they named their first son, born in in Delaware in 1682,Emanuel Grubb (my ancestor)
The OXFORD BOOK OF ENGLISH CHRISTIANNAMES states that the name Elinor is a form of Helen and the names are used by the same person indifferently. It also says that name Emanuel is seldom given by Christians in England but there were a few in Cornwall in the 15th and 16th C
A naming custom in England, followed by this Grubb family is that the 1st or 2nd son should be named after the father of his wife or mother.
The Vivian dates were from misfiled Bishops Transcriptsscraps read to me by the clerk of the Cornwall Co. Record Office in Truro in 1982.
The Grubb dates were from Potterne, Wilts parish records that the wife of the pastor of the Potterne Church mailed to me in 1997. The librarian at the Devizes Museum and Library in Wilts gave the following to me in 1982 from Wilts Notes and Queries“John Grubb, baptized in Potterne in 1622, between October and November of that year, age 8, is the son of Rev. Thomas Grubb the elder as he had a younger brother Thomas born in 1594.”Thiswas verified by the parish recordsent to me.
Potterne Parish records alsoinclude the burial of Thomas Grubb Jr in 1630. (the elder Rev. Thomas) Burial of his father Thomas Grubbwas in1617.(He married Susan Hart, dau of John Hart. All 4 of their sons named their 1st or 2nd sonJohn.)There was also a burial in Potterne of an EmalineGrubb (a Vivian name)in 1668.Was she a sister of John Grubb b. 1652 that he brought with him from Cornwallafter the death of his mother in 1666?Sarah died soon after her mother and George, and possibly others, would be left in Cornwall to care for his father until his death in 1670.
I found an Emanuel Vivian born in St. Mabyn in 1637. I would appreciate any informationon him or any Emanuel Vivianany time, anywhere in Cornwall or border villages in Devon before 1700. Any George or Sarah Vivian might also be a clue to help us find Helen’s family.Contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org my daughter Charlene Duvalcduval@cruzio.com i