I am a descendant of John M Warren and Louisa J Ables of Limestone Co AL.I have been asked to share this information on this forum for the benefit of other researchers.
I, like many others, found the information online where John M Warren was the son of Thomas Warren of Lincoln Co TN. The research appeared to be thorough. However, I do not believe it to be accurate.
There were two Thomas Warrens in Lincoln Co at the same time, both with a son named John about the same age. At this point I began to trace each person to see which Thomas was the correct one.
In the 1850 census for Lincoln Co TN there were THREE (3) John Warren(s) about the same age, 14 & 13.
What I found is that the Thomas Warren, son of Daniel, had son John which everyone claims to be our John M.However, by 1854 our John M Warren was married to Louisa J Ables and they are living in their own household in the 1860 Lincoln Co TN census.Thomas Warren's son, John, is still living with him in 1860 and is shown as a constable.
This would indicate that Thomas Warren is not the father of my John M Warren.
The second Thomas living in Lincoln Co was Thomas K Warren.He had a son named John, age 13, in the 1850 census.When I traced him I found him in 1860 Marshall Co TN and the son named John was not in his household. I then traced Thomas K back to Lincoln Co in 1870 & 1880.According to the family file for Thomas K Warren, the son named John B Warren died in 1855 and is buried in the Blake Cemetery in Lincoln Co.
This eliminates both Thomas Warrens as being the father of John M Warren.
The third John of the right age is the son of Marmon D Warren.He is listed as John W Warren, age 14, son of Marmon D Warren and Kesiah.Tracing this guy was difficult because of his name, however, Marmon D is accurate.
By 1860 the son named John is no longer in the household.According to Nellie Schueler, one of the descendants of John M claimed that his father was Norman Dee Warren.There is a family file showing the spelling Marrion D Warren. A Marmon D Warren was in the Civil War in the same company as John M. - Co A, 41st Regiment.Later death certificate for one of the sons verifies that the name is Marmon D Warren.......not Norman or Marrion.This same death certificate also shows the mother's name as Kitha Hightower.It has been transcribed as Ritha, however, comparing the writing on this certificate it has to be a K....Kitha, not Ritha.Regardless, the census records always show her name to be Kesiah.He also named a son Marmon D, Jr.
I found Marmon D in the 1860 Lincoln Co census, listed as M D Warren, Dist 5 house 334.His son Enoch Warren was in house 332, and our John M Warren was in house 330.
1.We have close proximity.
I didn't make note of the spelling that I found him under in the various census, but this is what I found.
1830 Lincoln Co TN, age 20-30
1840 Rutherford Co TN, age 30-40-this was misspelled as Heason or something like that.
1850 Lincoln Co TN, age 35,listed as Marmion D,age has to be wrong
1860 Lincoln Co TN, age 50, listed as M D Warren
1880 Moore Co TN, age 79, listed as M D Warren, wife K.
I never found Marmon D Warren in any census in 1870.I checked every misspelling I could think of.More than likely he is buried in Moore Co. TN.Moore Co was formed in 1871 from part of Bedford and Franklin.His son, Marmon D, Jr, is found in Bedford Co in 1870, 1880, and 1900. That is as far as I went.I had to make sure it wasn't Marmon D, Sr.
I traced the son, Robert J Warren, to Ellis Co., TX.which is where I found his death certificate (with Nellie's help). It was common back then to name children after family members, parents, grandparents, brothers, etc.We don't know what the M stands for in John's name.It is doubtful that it was Marmon since Marmon D gave another son that name.
I saw name similarities in the families of John M Warren and Robert J Warren.
John M named a son Robert.Robert J named a son John.
John M named a son James Benjamin.Robert named a son Benjamin F, and one James W.
Of course, these were also names found in other lines as well.
I believe, and Nellie agrees with me, that Marmon D Warren was probably the father of John M Warren.Regardless, it would seem that the father, Thomas Warren, is incorrect.