It is uncanny how similar the facts are here. This is what I know: Raymond Warrender b. 2-2-1917 (grandfather) William Warrender b. 1888 or 1889 (Raymond's father) William had three brothers: Herb James Frank There father was Charles and all I know is he was supposed to be from England. I don't know years except for the fact that William was born in Lebanon, CT USA.