Clifford's and Gilbert's mother (Hettie F. Pyle Wathen) was a sister to my grandmother Sarah Lurena Pyle McMahan. The parents of Hettie and Sarah were Hardin C.L. Pyle and Melissa "Melizzie" Merker. The Pyles lived in Perry County Indiana. My mother talked about her aunt some and said she moved to Cairo Ill. after marrying Joseph Wathen and That she later in life moved to Boonville IN. her obituary card can be found on the Browning genealogy web site. The information listed says they Clifford lived in Kansas City and that Gilbert lived in Marion. I have not been able to find much information on them past the 1930 census.