We recently had a group of men upgrade to 37 markers,the results are now in;
-Kit 76690, Whelan b 1840 Co Cork, has a 35/37match with 84389, who traces back to Philidelphia PA
-Kit 100127, Wm Whalen from Ireland, matches 63/67 with 98399, from Durrow Co Laois. (He also has the "recloh" at 413a/b and value of 16,16, as opposed to 16,23. This is only counted as a one step mutation,so a genetic distance of 1.) The other man with 16,16, Kit 99152, also fron Durrow Co Laois, is a GD of 9 though, so they dont look like they are closely related.
-Kit 87323, Wm Phelan of Co Kilkenny, has a great 36/37 match with N25286, Solomon Whalen b 1849 Ireland.
_Kit 87322, Nicholas Phalen from Co Kilkenny is a Gd of 3 with 87323 and with 86333, John Phalen possibly of Co Waterford.
At 37 markers all the men in this "R1b Group 1" match one another in the group at 34/37 or better, which indicates they are related in a geneaolgical time frame. The relationship bewteen these men appears to be quite tangled.
Of the group we can only distinguish 2 groups with very tight matches at 36/37, which indicates a tight relationship. I have put these 2 groups into separate Lines that may indicate possible Lineages. These are Line 1, with 55192 from Co Laois and 84389 from PA. Line 2, with 87323 from Co Kilkenny, N25286 and then N40925 who has a 12/12 marker match, and a paper trail to a common ancestor with N25286, Solomon Whalen b 1749.
We also had a few new members; -Kit# N40925 and Kit N25286 who match at 12/12 markers,confirming their paper trail
Kit# N40925 Solomon Whalen b 1749, Ireland. Solomon Whalen Jr, Kentucky. Joseph Whalen Elza R Whalen
Kit# N25286 Solomon Whalen b 1749 Ireland. Henry Whalen b c1766 Harrison Co KY or c1760 Ireland, marr Nancy ?John William? Whalen b 1805, marr Mary Montier Washington Wesley Whalen b 1832, marr Rachel Carr Samuel Benjamin Whalen b 1865/66 Harrison Co KY, marr Callie M F Maines John Wesley Whalen b 1894 Falmouth, Pendleton Co KY, marr Cora Catherine Wall/Wahl
And from Ancestry.com - KitA00001, who can trace back to; John Whalen marr Mary Sullivan James H Whalen, b 1849, Dungarven Co Waterford Ireland, marr Mary Ann Dempsey.
So far they dont have any close match in the Whalen Project and would be in the Unmatched R1b Group.
-Kit A00004, who can trace back to James Patrick Phelan b 1865, Slade, Parish Callan, Co Kilkenny Ireland. So far they have no close matches in the group, and are in our "Unmatched R1b Group".
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