Was going through some notes I have reading about John Whitmire, signed into genealogy.com and there were Mitch's posts about John.I can remember my grandmother, wife of Jesse telling this story telling this story that also, coincidentally showed up in the notes I was looking at. My cousin Carolyn did some family research several years ago.She talked to Aunt Lula(r) and had the same thing in her notes from Aunt Lula that I can remember Grandma telling. I will look into calling Carolyn later as I know she talked to other family members too.Her notes from Aunt Lula say that John Whitmire was the s/o Stephen Whitmire (1760-1831). Stephen married Mary Porter and later married Elizabeth Downing (a cherokee woman). True or not, I don't know, but it is what Aunt Lular told Carolyn and I'm betting it came from the family Bible. I hope you will let me know what you know about this tale of Elizabeth Downing as I know that my grandmother mentioned her a few times and now I know that Aunt Lular told it too. I'll ask Carolyn if she has any idea where the bible went.Just trying to catch up on what has gone on since I got sidetracked with other business.